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They did not add the serial number of the rifle to the second butt stock edge, nor the S51 mark to the wrist - this Hollands work is not recognized as required for continued service in those parts. Based on serial numbers observed, approximately 35,000 No. Founded in 1999. Four scabbard designs saw significant use with the No. However, the Rijkswacht (Gendarmerie) used the No. British Lee-Enfield No4 Mk2 knife bayonet, scabbard and frog Dated 1949 P (RSAF Poole) 95.00. Fully functional barrel, receiver in 7.62 x 51 NATO. Singer continued using a similar markings, as used on the Mk. It is a bolt action repeating rifle with a 10 round box magazine and free floating barrel, and is chambered for the venerable Mk.VII ammunition in .303 caliber. Socket: "G (Crown) R" over No 4 Mk I" over "S M", Blade (flute): Broad Arrow over "22" (in electropencil). During the Second World War, the British government curtailed the use of commercial trademarks to make it more difficult for the Germans to locate (and bomb) factories producing war materiel. Only 75,000 of this type were made. So a genuine Savage rear sight converted to T format by H&H is possible on an early 1941 converted and war time used rifle and on a late 1945 scopeless rifles and in between when added to BSA rifles that had the L flip sight from the factory - Savage provided a lot of micrometer sights for this purpose. With the bayonet fixed, the helve was used to probe for land mines. 4 bayonet is coated with PX4mineral oil (grease), in a green waxed "primary pack" wrapper. They may have the numbers stamped into the front portion of the fore-end and on the bottom of the magazine. !o, I am hoping to get some help confirming or disproving my theory about this 1963 Indian furbished Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* I bought a few days ago. was a firm called Princess Silk Shades, who made webbing during the War. by gruff27 23 Mar 2012, 11:37, Post It is found on early rifles that saw full service (1941 Maltby - un-peened pad screws evident), It is on unissued "scopeless" rifles from 1944 and on later "scopeless" and service experienced 1945 rifles. No.4 MK1 Buttplate With Trap LE4045 $9.00 1 review (s) Lee Enfield # 1 MK 3 Canvas Rifle Cover (Case) With Sling Carry Strap, WWII Pattern LE3092 Made from heavy canvas material, this gun case was used for the Enfield #1 MKIII and #1 MKIV rifles. This one was no different. Savage used variations of both a plain "s" and an "s" inside a Square. You can build more Battery Ammo and .303 at the Chem bench. In 1943, Prince-Smith was assigned the dispersal code N56. The butt stock above was taken from a real BSA No4T - it is clearly a service replacement - but not by a British armorer - the serial number for the rifle is stamped with 2 sets of numbers - on 3/8" and the other 1/4" - rather crookedly. 4 MK 1 and retained its original chambering in .303 British. 2 mm. Each loop does its own job - the middle loop of each is for the biceps - typically retaining at least one keeper to synch down around the middle of the upper arm when in position. The frog measures 4.875in. Sujet: Re: Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 Aujourd'hui 20:28: Pour en possder une, j'ai une tikka T3x tac en 308 , et 600m ft un temps les rsultats taient prometteurs . ,DTvb5@ kg:v%A$6%#,6J,q]+9 V ,,mD$\"L3-p0$z2 cC+`i`,pIt jns;Nt=_e9AA r ^G? Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. The company was established on the bombed out site of the South East London Indoor Sports Club (destroyed in the blitz bombings of 194041), solely to make bayonets. Sight system is wing protected blade front with flip up dual aperture rear, with calibrations of 800 yards. <]>> Not too mention it looks better with the walnut furniture over the birch. Lee-Enfield rifle 303 No.4 Mark 1. I have a couple of No.4 Mk.I's, and they do not have anything like the makings shown. Here is a simple shadow board depicting the 4 most common Enfields. If it has a lateral screw through the back of the forend, it is either a post war production Mk.2, or an earlier mark that has been rebuilt. No4 Mk1 - DP - A safety lesson 2012: A DP marked rifle fired without first being completely dismantled or inspected after purchase by a new owner. This is my first personal Enfield and second in my family. "F.F. It has been observed that only on No4T rifles, there can be found an "X" mark on the upper left flat on top of the left fore end that holds the receiver wall. The scabbard is a Mk. xref Inspection marks on the receiver ring. 1 for the British military. The bolt heads are marked 0, 1, 2, or 3. 4 bayonet. The used value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($5.68) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $600.00 . These later T's often went into stock as "Scopeless" - a rifle in a transit chest as a spare part - awaiting a need and the addition of a scope and bracket - plus all the other CES. So they languished deep in the Weedon bunkers. Howard & Bullough converted from the manufacture of cotton spinning machines to the production of shells, gun carriages, mine sinkers, aircraft components, and bayonets. These bayonets equipped the 2ndNew Zealand Expeditionary Force. by Steve Hoog 22 Mar 2012, 20:21, Post 2" over "Bg" over Crown-JF proofmark over "5171". This lowered costs and allowed manufacture by subcontractors. I read that BO would indicate early 1944. The rear sights were also switched out for Singer Machine marked and made parts (interestingly not marked S67 yet even this late in production and supply). III (substitute) scabbard with parallel sides and oval frog stud. Mine is a 1943. (2) Canadian No. Serial Numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification, Serial Number and Manufacturer Information Locations. There are almost 2 years of rifle production that did not receive this triangular sling swivel at the factory and would have it added in service - especially prolonged Cold War British service - it is still possible to encounter a rifle that was an early discharge / loss that never received the triangular swivel update. 4 Mk. 4Mk. The mark and type of rifle will be stamped onto the left side receiver wall. Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century, British No. British "Enfield" rifles are some of the most iconic small arms in the world. II bayonets from 19421944. Similarly Savage rifles that are genuine and completed to a fully scoped "T" are rare and early. Top to bottom an . Forging subcontractor marks tend to be very deeply struck. The M47C is typical, as is the date and TR mark. Pakistan and India added the "Ishapore" screw to reinforce the front wood forward of the knox (more likely job creation for armourers). These were originated for the No4 rifle design by Singer Machine Co, hence they are often referred to as a "singer sight". S191 was Franco-British Electrical's dispersal code. They remained in use with select weapon platforms - the P14T / No3T as its name was changed) through to WW2. All matching numbers. The rod of this example is marked S7, indicating manufacture by subcontractor Auto Engineering Ltd. of Croydon. Along with parts replacement and service programs. (21mm.) 1 Mk. (125mm.) 2. They are tight barrels. The only maker was the Singer Manufacturing Co. (the famous sewing machine people), at their Clydebank, Scotland plant. The new value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has risen $13.78 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $631.57 . But the persistent zero problem became an annoyance. 5 SD Nov 63 Piece of cake rebarreling the old No4. Prince-Smith & Stells in Keighly, Yorkshire, produced 1,057,515 No. Here are 2 genuine early Singer produced sights - the SM 41 example was more correct to apply to my 1941 MalTby: Note the all blackened finish - dark and matt - typical of war time efforts at H&H. TRIGGER Lee Enfield British Enfield No.4 Mk. This mark sometimes appears alone and sometimes with another forging contractors mark, which suggests that Tinsley supplied steel to several of the socket forging contractors. .303 isn't any different that anything else. History, development, service, specifications, pictures and 3D model. A listing of British and Commonwealth bayonet markings is available on Bryan Browns Old Military Markings Web site. It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! It was a simplified version of the Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield rifle that served the Empire so well in the first unpleasantness. The item on the left has been rebuilt, but features other components marked "SM" for consistency. Markings on Lee Enfield rifles No4 serial numbers too. long by 1.75in. 0000000756 00000 n 1 scabbards. Don(B3)RAOC Primary Pack. One influence in the selection of Singer was that Scotland was felt to be safer from German bombers than England. starting with a 1) indicates it was manufactured by ROF Maltby in Yorkshire, England. P.S.K. by The_Enigma 30 Mar 2012, 09:13, Return to The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth 1919-45, Discussions on all aspects of the The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth during the Inter-War era and Second World War. Something that looks like 12C456 or 12L345. This Mk. In correspondence, Anthony Carter indicated that Brades was the maker of many of the entrenching tools. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:33, Post Prince-Smith used four different markings: Howard & Bullough Co. of Accrington, Lancashire, was one of the smaller makers of the No. It retains the 10 round box detachable magazine, however the largest change to the rifle was the addition of a rear aperture sight. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Baird No. The C would make it a Savage, a L would make it a Long Branch. The Lee-Enfield rifle was first adopted by the British as a military arm in 1895 and . GI#: 102214907. The Indian plant stamped their own serial number into the top of the receiver. Singer and other producers (Savage has been observed). . 2018 at 7:33am: he! The No. Brass is said to have been an alternative screw material, but I have yet to see them installed - even in Ts from other nations. I scabbard may have been made in the USA, given the lack of any maker's or proof marks. The final result in March 1944 became the No. Production occurred during the latter half of 1941 and into the early months of 1942. Hollands also stamped the rifle serial number into the hidden edge of the top of the butt that fits into the wrist socket and at the underside tip of the lower fore wood - along the barrel bore axis (other factory serials are seen here wrapped around the fore wood - around the barrel axis). Hollands being the hand made shotgun and rifle masters took the specified "high street" sourced screws and blued the heads. Subcontractors produced many of the No. No. 3. No4 mk1 is stamped on the side of the reciever. xb```b``^X,{%NIt#@4qz6lR9A!}klL61M?&`8p8feD'J 5'J1i&u K08|uN1+|^ T 5O.8,uM^rJV`[X;%!..@ ;~]m2G%Ey,' XtnxQc9!Lm1_h ROF (F)- Royal Ordinance Factory, Fazakerley, UK, FY- Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, (F)-Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, UF-Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, Long Branch- Small Arms Ltd., Long Branch, Ontario, Canada, P.O.F.- Pakistan Ordnance Factory, Wah, Pakistan. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. The Indians did us no favors scrubbing & remarking as they did. They would apply this mark to th butt heel - running along the axis of the rifle - red with the muzzle on the left. Quantity: 2 ea. Length: approximately 44 inches, Barrel Length: approximately 25 inches. The front curved shape of the cheek piece was prone to splitting so finger inserts and repairs are often seen hear to keep the rifle working. Had a look at Skennerton, and did not find much. The following maker marks are pictured at left: This scabbard is pictured on page 133 of Graham Priests book, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century. According to the author, the example in my collection is still the only brass-throated scabbard reported. 4) Several arrow looking things located all over the rifle 0000002767 00000 n Speculation is that it may be a prototype from a design proposal that was not adopted. The left side of the receiver is marked "NO 4 MK 1*". APEX Gun Parts is your source for hard to find gun parts, parts kits, and accessories. 4Mk. 4Mk. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. About the rifles. Later in World War II, a hot black oxidizing process was substituted. The most common of these were: XP was used for the Shortened and Lightened Australian Lithgow (No6 Jungle Carbine) rifles, A was used for No1 MkVI trail rifles, BS was used on the British No7 small bore rifles, and T1 for the No5 small bore rifles. This indicates the length of the bolt head with the larger numbers being the longer bolt heads. The last picture shows an unusual Prince-Smith mark comprised of a large "56" on the socket face. This symbol is similar to the Australian Defence Dept. So I would say the "S" mark can be used for verification of a real rifle but it is not the main course of study. Genuine early, When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) So if you have a genuine Maltby T - it was converted in 1941 and a little into 1942 at H&H while stocks lasted - typically Maltby "Ts" are nearly always 1941 dated - a 1942 example that is genuine has yet to be documented. Weight fully loaded with sling was eight pounds even and overall length a handy 39.5 inches. I, with the bayonet and socket one solid forging. Feedback from the initial service performance at the front (often from prior experienced target shooters) indicated that longer slings with a central mount at the front of the magazine would be preferred. II bayonets from 19421944. Yet again, once the sequence of numbers caped out letter prefixes were used to start the sequence over. Thank you for the welcome. This updated and expanded edition also has a ready model identification chapter and colour plates. I, Scabbard (Throat): broad arrow proofmark, Tool: "BRADES" over "1944" over broad arrow proofmark. The rifle functions beautifully, I'm just trying to track things down as much as I can. " gh" over "1 9 h". No4 rifles were given a starting number that may be used to identify manufacturers, but again there was no set serial blocks. The stocks of British manufactured examples are typically a naturally seasoned English walnut that has a moderately dark brown color and has a tight, straight grain. Description: Bayonet Spike: C-Broad Arrow acceptance mark (electropenciled). The Short, Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) delivered sterling service from the mud of Flanders to the farthest reaches of the Empire. 4 Mk. Per the contract and description Hollands were to remove the L / "flip" battle sight when present from the sending factory and replace it with one of their provided milled micrometer sights (either Singer Machine or Savage made and marked) - this would leave the rifle needing a new "zero" - a pass through an "Enfield Rest" test. So usually to get the old barrel off I cut a groove relief just forward of the receiver to relieve the pressure. Known Issues: PA 3rd Person broken (Wont fix) Tape clipping. !o, I am hoping to get some help confirming or disproving my theory about this 1963 Indian furbished Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* I bought a few days ago. Cheek Piece and Screws - The birch / beech / walnut cheek piece design and material specification were first developed for the No3T - the scoped Pattern '14 rifles. Since the Government arms factories were already running at capacity producing rifles and machine guns, private contracts were let for bayonet production. 4 Mk. . II*, with approximately 161,026 reported produced, during 19421943. The other details such as maker, model, and FTR are on the left side of the receiver, either very lightly stamped, or engraved with an electric pencil. BRITISH or CANADIAN WWII ENFIELD SLING or BREN used cond. Most of these seem to have been released / imported in the 1980s. Commercially, in the United States, these rifles have not been widely available for some time, although nice unsporterized examples can still be found. The 2ndNZEF fought in the North African and European Theatres as part of the British 8th Army. Other makers welded the spike to the socket. In the case of Savage Stevens the serial numbers began with a 0C1 and for Long Branch 0L1, these serials progressed in sequence directly relating the serial number to the number of rifles produced. No4 mk1 is stamped on the side of the reciever. British Lee-Enfield No7 Mk1/L knife bayonet, scabbard and frog M/78 Date 1954. When the number sequence reached 9999 the next letter assigned to the factory would be substituted in place of the former. 1* imported by Century International Arms. II made at LongBranch in Canada. 4 Mk. In the British war time contract scheme there were 2 phases of demarcation - early / pre-war marks, and later regionalized contractor codes, For mid 1943 and down you are seeking the early war markings from Singer (SM), after that seek the regional producer code (S69 - for Southern region, 69th contractor). According to Skennerton, these scabbards were most likely made in North America, either the USA or Canada. by Steve Hoog 23 Mar 2012, 02:44, Post $6.50 + $5.05 shipping. Westland of Croyden - an alternative to their "C.E.W. Unissued Savage Enfield No 4 Mk1 Rifle , 303 British. HWn7WpW)|s,iY&(T{+S{ycI( xxu_X')r_%m%ae[ov!n{wKrI|%Rs*5Pg" crR&%Nu2KC G?8~3TZ,GrpOMl">Ep%PT>|`(8-8i,&v#b7R U,i~D H2MV~p}-6eY3@K_wlqwC0TWv jwv~=4=?9K2/.$gc|dr_1Ti)wbz|y!A|Q6%w%j6gcB/GccvuY L>WpRQw- %zSZ9TbTdkuI?p`!_Uo_ M]TTy0& ~al2{|A2,`W&rf2-F^KN.w2A2bD F[0Iu&hSXYdOD9(=JshJa@. 4 mm. . Hollands were contracted to produce enough swivels to retro fit all arms found in service and they were provided as an armourer spare part. PS over K inside a circle (pictured at left) There is another marking forward of the breech, but its so small It wont come out well on a photograph, I wouldnt even hazard a guess at what the marking Is as it`s so small and unclear. . The sling worked well enough in dry / sunny climates like Africa and Italy, but in the UK training camps and northern Europe they were found to be "slippy" to use and needing lots of preservative (Dubbin) to survive the wet conditions. One of the recent Pakistani surplus releases featured a range of No4T and their replacement parts - now circulating in European, Australian and USA markets. Any stock of the P14 cheek pieces would have been transferred to the 4T program - first built by Enfield Lock and then by Hollands - it is not clear when these transitioned to new made cheek pieces. 0000003043 00000 n 0000013021 00000 n British Enfied rifle No.4 in action protecting a Bren gunner. A drain hole in the finial, allows water to drain. 4Mk. This "last-ditch" SMLE was manufactured in 1943, and it has all the signs of a wartime firearm made in the throws of desperation. More likely then not,it started life at the Long Branch plant. Home / Firearm Parts and Accessories / Rifle Parts / Lee Enfield #4 MK1. 4Mk. Surplus Lee-Enfield spike bayonet with scabbard/sheath. AA5081". Some SMLEs may be found with as little as a 3 digit number and high as a 5 digit number. II was, by far, the most numerous variant, with over 3.3million units produced. Guns, Parts and Accessories Quick Shopper, WTS/WTB/WTT (Want to Sell, Buy or Trade) Forum, Appraisals, Fakery, Dispute Resolution & Mediation Forum. 196,200 were produced, all by Joseph Lucas Ltd., Chester Street, Birmingham. 0000002083 00000 n 0000004592 00000 n The serial would be correct for early 1944 if it started with a "3" - was the "1" added somewhere else? All of the numbers on the metal (except the magazine) are matching. A round frog stud is brazed to the body. The "circle-PSK" marking is somewhat of a mystery and is seldom encountered. III was the final, and crudest, form of the No. To ensure its the real deal and war period production, what should one look for? Unlike other makers of No. Mills Webbing Prototype (Reproduction) Sling. The tooling is rough, the bayonet is little more than a . 4 Mk. I. 0000004885 00000 n (120mm.) . No4 Mk2 - 1955. For official references, usually the finished and issued rifle was tracked by its rack number and of course these records have long since been destroyed or lost forever. These came together as you see them; bayonet and sheath have "4" painted on. N30 over H&B (pictured at left). N30 (pictured at left) 0000000016 00000 n Danish Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 Green Canvas Sling HTK. This mod adds an Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.1 alongside a small quest. No. It was thought that these may have been used by Australian units serving alongside the British Army, however, Australian issue of these bayonets has not been confirmed. Genuine early BSA marked T rear sight (reconditioned / polished scale face): When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) In the British war time contract scheme there were 2 phases of demarcation - early / pre-war marks, and later regionalized contractor codes, For mid 1943 and down you are seeking the early war markings from Singer (SM), after that seek the regional producer code (S69 - for Southern region, 69th contractor). Scabbard (frog stud): "Bg" over Crown-JF proofmark. The first photo below is of a Hollands installed cheek piece on a 1944 scopeless rifle - its position, form and fit is per the as-new standard. 5 Mk I (for example, Savage or H&B I was recently asked to demo how to attach the web sling and its cousin the 1907 leather sling to an No4T for use in the field or range. A specific chapter in the new 'Lee-Enfield Rifles' update of the 1992 'Lee-Enfield Story' is devoted to Serial Numbers. The Parker HAle PH215 series triangular sling swivel is "High Tower" and will have the triangle clear the trigger housing loop to spin 360 degrees - these are also typically bright blued or blacked. 4 scabbards, the Securing Tab remained in British Army stores until the mid-1970s. 0000002206 00000 n I scabbards were made in the USA. Along with the manufacturers name both the date of manufacture and the type and mark of the rifle is also shown. over S376, inside a rectangle. Interesting feedback, here are all other markings that I can find. Date of Manuf: SMLEs will have serial numbers stamped on the bolt, receiver, barrel, nose cap and the underside of the rear sight. Many minor variations in parts are present across the different manufacturers and for the different years that the rifles were produced. Qty 1 F Sep 1986 Longbranch No. The rifle pictured here is a No. 1 in 1939. Vanden Plas (Eng) 1923 Ltd. of Kingsbury Rd., London produced approximately 950,000 Mk. The No. I believe the number " 1 xxxx" means it was manufactured at Maltby. 4 Mk. AA5081 is the stores catalogue number. Enfield Rifle For Sale. British Armourers would change the butt stock out for damage and sniper preference reasons - so true rifles often have different butt stock features other than the presence of a cheek piece - in the cold war era they were allegedly ordered to add all missing marks. The box label indicates that these were packed November 1963, at the 5th Storage Depot. Quest starts at lvl15+. 4Mk. Hosted by Andy H. Gruff, I don't know but will check mine when I get home tonight and report in if it is on mine. The following makers' codes are noted on some bayonet blades and scabbards, it is quite possible that they may also appear on firearms and related components. This is stamped on the band: 1943 A L 1 1385 Also on the rear barrel band it is stamped VNS with a little crown underneath of it and there is an I stamped on the front sight guard. The new model became the Magazine, Lee Enfield Mk1 or MLE Mk1 in 1895. The factory eventually went on to produce cylinder heads for Davey-Paxman landing craft engines. Wartime guns all had letter prefixes, but each. It is essentially an updated N0. Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1944 No4T on the left and two heavily reworked "sportster" T's (the middle professionally done by Sante Fe) and an American surplus "bubba" on the right. . on Oct 26, 2019. . The No. As interest in replacing the No. This is one of the most frequently (attempted) reproduced / forged marks of all the No4T marks. 1* is functionally the same as the Mk.1, but various changes were made in the design to make the manufacturing process faster. When these rifles were refurbished in the factory, they were given a second black oxidizing or they were painted with a matte or semigloss black paint in the spots where the original finish had worn off. 2. On the opposite side of the RFI 1963 stamp,is there a serial number? The rifle was a No. 5 carbines have ONLY four digit serial numbers. Early No4 rifles were produced with the micrometer sight by the rifle manufacturer (Enfield Lock - "E over D" for the Trials rifles). I have a serial number and FTR on the piece you have a picture of; my date is on the main part of the gun right above where your stuff is. Markings: The left side of the stock collar is marked "14C2827 / S /1942" and with a flaming bomb proof. Method: 1 Area Code: 443 . $15.50. It may not display this or other websites correctly. An example of a viewer's mark "75TZ" is pictured at left. While the Winchester made P14s were recognized as designated man / sniper rifles and developed the remainder, included the 1907 leather slings were relegated to storage and second tier supplies / arms / materials. & S. Ltd." = Fred Fisher & Sons Ltd. "JW (S) Ltd." = John Wilson Ltd., Sheffield, "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" = Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. The safety latch style and M47C mark and the SM marked rear sight as as the 1945 examples above. The new value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($24.62) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $603.36 . 4Mk. It has been consistently observed but no reason or original documentation found to support it. 4 Mk. Go to. Sheffield Steel Products produced approximately 670,000 Mk. 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